THE MECK REPORT --- THE MECK PODCAST: Hostage Heroes “How They Did It”. - WTVY.com - CBS News - Former FBI assistant director John Miller breaks down what happened on Charles Poland's school bus last Tuesday: - "This videotape doesn't unfold over seconds - it unfolds over minutes. He comes on the bus and he knows the bus driver. The bus driver had dropped a pie off at his house that day. He says I want two children, and Charlie Poland opens the emergency door and lets all the children escape, but Ethan is sitting in the front seat and he just freezes. And then for the next few minutes, Dykes is saying I'm taking this boy with me, and Charlie Poland says no you're not. And Dykes says if you try to stop me I'm going to shoot you. And you can tell on the video the driver is frightened but he stands his ground." - Miller says in the course of the negotiations with Dykes, negotiators tried to find a third party who Dykes would trust but the FBI discovered Dykes had no friends.